Canonical and Microsoft: Is Sustaining a Business Better than Turning a Profit Right Now?

by Kristin Shoemaker - Jan. 12, 2009Comments (19)

The New York Times ran a piece this Sunday featuring Canonical CEO Mark Shuttleworth. Though a majority of the piece was biographical, and the rest wasn't exactly the picture of accuracy in its portrayal of Ubuntu (or Linux in general), there were a few interesting figures.

It gives pause to wonder how, in this economy, and in an ever-changing industry, profit still gets much better press than growth.

The Times reports Canonical is approaching the $30 million a year mark in terms of revenue, and Shuttleworth feels that is the point when the company will become self-sustaining.

The Times also says that that $30 million figure won't worry Microsoft. Of course it won't, at least not when it comes to the bottom line, right here, right now. It's mere pocket change. I agree wholeheartedly with Linux Magazine's Bryan Richard that it's the long-term that Microsoft needs to be very, very concerned about.

Richard pulls out one of interesting figures in the article: Microsoft had 10,000 people (the article is unclear whether these were all developers, or administrative and support staff were factored in) working on Vista for a five year period. The Times might be correct in that Canonical's approach makes turning a profit difficult, but huge profits in any given year can mean relatively little five years on. Canonical's self-sustaining revenue may not be threatening -- but it leaves one wondering how sustainable Microsoft's development process really is.

The tech industry is in a difficult spot -- the economy is rough, technology is by nature always changing, and businesses -- and business models -- are organic, evolving forms. Profits are important -- as is innovation, listening to customers, and consistently delivering and standing by a product. It might not come down to open source "winning" the most revenue -- it might be simply that it remains available, and supported when the final buzzer sounds.



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19 Comments
 

What final buzzer...


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First: Vista is not a fiasco. The SP1 made it working well


Second: Windows 7 is already a success, even in beta. Guess What ? it 'is completely based on Vista ! (en fact you can call it Vista Release 2)


Success is a hard and long process


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I will be impressed when even one linux distribution takes greater than 5% market share. 10 years ago RedHat was going to revolutionize the OS market. Here we still sit with >90% desktop market share being Microsoft's while RedHat still tries to find its niche. Apple is the closest thing we've seen to a *nix success and only because they were already in the market and were known. Even as great a success as Apple has been in the last 10 years, it still has less than 10% market share. Want to make *nix a success? Ask Apple to open its platform up to other hardware and change its pricing slightly. I would put money on a near doubling of market share within 3-5 years.


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This sounds like Ubuntu’s Death Rattle.


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@anonymous user from 21 jan 2009: Do better research next time. Apple has 14% market share on the OS market. So it's already more dan 10%.


Also, Ubuntu is getting more popular so it will reach the market share of 5% in about 3 years, I think.


And why Windows 7 beta is better? Because they copied things from KDE. Copying the good parts of Linux and then implement it in Windows. Wow, great strategy! Not! It's just lame because Microsoft can't come up with ideas being from their own. Even those "revolutinary" popup thingies at the Quick Launch were implemented in KDE (although not turned on by default) last year when KDE 4.0 came out. And KDE 4.0 came out before Microsoft started to work on the eyecandy of Windows 7. So MS is just lame, like I already said.


Ow yeah, and I use Kubuntu and are really happy with that, it's waaay better then Windows ever will be.


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5% market share for Ubuntu? And how will that happen? According to people with a similar mindset Linux has been supposed to kill Windows (and Microsoft) every single year since 2000... And it can't even break past a 1-2 percentage point of market share (% minus Apple).


On the desktop, Linux is only good if you want to surf the internet or maybe check your g-mail.


For everything else it is a pain and will NEVER be able to outshine Windows.


It's only use is on the server, or in very specialized situations. For everything else Windows wins all day long.


Put Linux on a billion systems and you will have problems 1000x more than a beta of Win95 could ever achieve in the year 2010. No one would be able to use it. It would be infected with a virus about every second.


Tell me another thing... Why would I want to use Ubuntu Linux when Windows works for me? Why would I and the other 1 billion users switch?


There are many causes you can give yourself to in life. World hunger, homeless shelters, animal right, and so on. Do you think I care about your philosophy of the GNU/GPL, software-wants-to-be-free, Microsoft is evil, Vista sucks because that’s what all my 14 year old friends tell me, collective. I've got bigger things to worry about than sit all day around doing nothing but tinkering with Linux trying to get the soundcard to work... Like actual productive work.


If you want a dose of truth about Linux see here...

http://www.devside.net/blog/tag/ubuntu


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Lot of Windows Fanboys/MS Astroturfers contaminating this thread. FUD in deep piles. MS and their fanboys must indeed be scared.


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Say what? Linux is only good for surfing on the net and checking your mail?

Get a grip. I can do everything what i did in the past with Windows and even more.


The crap stories that are on the net that Linux is here to overthrow Microsoft is one big lie.


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"Put Linux on a billion systems and you will have problems 1000x more than a beta of Win95 could ever achieve in the year 2010. No one would be able to use it. It would be infected with a virus about every second."


Maybe... if you're using wine to play pirated games :) . As far as I know there are no virii for *n?x, if somebody knows one please share the info. On the MS Win side, how about Conficker ? 9 000 000 + infections and still counting...


"Also, Ubuntu is getting more popular so it will reach the market share of 5% in about 3 years, I think."


That might be a slight exageration... I'd like to see that but i don't think it will happen.


"Windows 7 is already a success, even in beta."


I agree with that, although I won't replace my Linux system with that 14 Gb monster. Why is it so huge anyway ? DRM-NG or what? On the other hand my Linux Mint 6 install is only 3Gb and I have a lot more programs ready to use.


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Whoa man....Linux vs MS talk again. Look, Ubuntu is a great piece of software and Windows, well let's just say to entrust it to run anything critical can be trying on my nerves.


Oh and before anyone screams that I am a Linux fanboy, let me just get it out, I am one. Also I was (for more than 10 years) an Exchange, AD, well Windows infrastructure Manager until like 8 months ago. So I am quite familiar with Windows.


When I started to use computers, the disks were really floppy and 640kB was something 600TB today.


When I was doing Windows with clusters, MS SQLs, Exchange farms, I run into issues like user unable to authenticate to AD and/or Exchange or for some reason, my cluster fail because of some dumb ass patch from MS. Exchange is probably the most ridiculous piece of server software, full of daily exciting stuff like unable to fail-over properly, Information Store and services that will just stop working, or mailboxes that seem to dissapear into thin air and then magically re-appear again.


And yes, we had the platinum status and paid a crapload of US dollars for support. We had people from MS coming by and tell us it's all our fault but the good news is the next version will fix it and make it easier for us not to make the same mistake again! I could tell my boss that for like US$10!


If you guys are so certain that Windows is such an excellent platform, I am sure you have experienced these frequent heart-stopping adventures. Or possibly you guys haven't managed large farms before and are quite happy to report how stable Windows runs on a 100-user single forest/site/tree domain.


Each platform has its pluses and minuses. It's all part of the game, but after making a living from Windows for >10 years, all I can say is, thank God for all the crappiness of Windows, else I would not have had a job!


Yes, GNU/Linux is bad. Bad for people who rely on making their money on leeching off others who have issues with an unstable platform. I do not blame them for hating GNU/Linux or OSS in general; it is plainly bad business for such people.


I do not once miss BSOD (for you Windows 7 fanboys out there, it's still there in the latest Beta and on Win2k8 final running on the latest whiz-bang tier-1 stuff), the myriad exotic names of viruses and worms and the frequent disk defragging I need to perform on my servers to keep them happy. And oh, never use the built-in Windows defragger while the server is running some stuff coz it will most probably hang the server; you gotta spend another crapload of money to get something good 3rd party stuff. Ditto for backup solutions.


People who said Windows is good most probably are just Windows desktop users who use it to play some games and haven't had to deal with back-end Windows on a large scale.


I now make my money with Linux and OSS. Windows still is the dominant player in the market. Will Ubuntu or any GNU/Linux distro dethrone Windows? Not for some time.


However and whatever is said. Choose your platform and be happy. One anonymous poster said about world peace and stuff, dude, don't you know GNU/Linux and OSS gives a new lease of life to older computers? Trying running a Windows mail server on a P3 with 256MB of RAM at the price of the hardware.


So Windows people, still think it will never outshine your favourite OS? Yeah sure, you guys get all the press, Conficker, Storm worm, Netsky etc. We can't possibly get all those press coverage!


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"Maybe... if you're using wine to play pirated games :) . As far as I know there are no virii for *n?x, if somebody knows one please share the info. On the MS Win side, how about Conficker ? 9 000 000 + infections and still counting... "


I think the point was that no one writes exploits to target 1% of the network when you can write expoints to target the other 99%.


I would love to hear someone explain the magic formula that makes Linux immune to exploits and scalability issues.


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For the anonymous poster who is a windows sock puppet. The article you so nicely put a link to is >=90% lies and mis-information. Yet another "Vista is great - Linux is failing" drivel article. If it weren't for the fact it's so much cr@p being spewed it would be ironic that the article is running on a linux machine.

Sigh, I guess M$ will continue to pay idiots like you to post anonymous everywhere you can until everyone requires a real email address.


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"The article you so nicely put a link to is >=90% lies and mis-information."


How about this one?... http://www.promotinglinux.com/truth/


On a serious note, why all this hate and rage against Windows users?


Listen,...


I'm okay with you using Linux. It's your choice to make. But leave the rest of us alone.


We like Windows. We like Microsoft. We like Vista.


What we don't like is you pushing your beliefs and religion on us.


And to the guy that wants to complain about not being able to handle AD, Exchange, MS SQL, and other Windows technologies. I just have one sentence for you...


Get a grip on what you are working with.


It just might not be the fault of the tools you are using, but your own shortcomings instead. It's always easy to blame someone else. Maybe that's why Linux attracts the type it does.


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I have been building and repairing computers for many years. One thing I always hated is how people would keep bringing their computers back to me because their windows install got infected with every virus/spyware/adware imaginable. Lately I have been talking many people into using Linux rather than windows and I haven't had one complaint. I have a lot more free time now that most my friends and relatives use Linux and are no longer calling me with issues. It's not for everyone, if you need windows games or some uncommon program for work or something, but it's great for most people and cheaper for everyone.


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"And to the guy that wants to complain about not being able to handle AD, Exchange, MS SQL, and other Windows technologies. I just have one sentence for you...


Get a grip on what you are working with."


Brave words from an anonymous poster. You can easily find me in IRCs and stuff. But I guess we will not know who you are.


Sorry to burst your bubble, well I do know my tools well. Fact is the tools provided by MS really doesn't work. As I wrote and probably you never did read it entirely, even MS has no ideas on how to support their own stuff and we paid them to do it. How can Information Store goes offline all of a sudden is my fault? It was just a standard installation. I just hate to hear the buck pushed to us by someone we paid to solve our issues. Luckily my bosses had one of those rare things, common sense to smell a herring.


I dare ya, go around and ask for a truthful confession from legit Windows/Exchange admins, ask them whether what I said is true.


"It just might not be the fault of the tools you are using, but your own shortcomings instead. It's always easy to blame someone else. Maybe that's why Linux attracts the type it does."


GNU/Linux people are by nature, inquisitive types. We are not content to know that it works but how it works; we are not the kind who would swallow anything that comes from some company and learn to love it coz we are told it is good for you.


Also, the whole article about GNU/Linux is pure FUD and it's old. You should be better informed. Why doesn't Microsoft sue? I mean certainly they have enough "attack dogs". If GNU/Linux has violated so many patents or IPs, where is the evidence? The smoking gun?


Fact is, as any chess player knows, the threat is greater than the execution. It is just hot air.


If you don't like GNU/Linux, that is your choice. But to ignore the fact that there is an entire industry that supports the genuine shortcomings of the Windows platform is foolhardy.


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I having been trying to abandon Windows for years which I found buggy, bloated, unhelpful, slow and resorce demanding.


I tried several times to chnage to a Linux distro, and for the most part it was too hard.


Then along came Ubuntu. One download, one CD burn, a reboot from that CD, a choice of how to install, 2 hard questions (like which city do you live in?), and 5 key clicks later I had a blindingly fat, slim, free uninfectable OS with 17000 packages to choose from.


I'm thinking of asking for all that money wasted on Gatesware back!


To those who write but Linux will get every bug going: It hasn't, it might, but the last viable one was in - wait for it - 1995, the computing Bronze Age.


To those who smugly say, I put in every patch and buy firewalls, I say, I admire your hard work, but I don't have to do it.


It is unfortunate that most commentator and journalist writing says some thing like: "Another Windows virus. Lucky if you've got Linux". It doesn't then go on to say how easy it is to install Ubuntu. Linux is a black art, too hard for mortals.


If you like me believe in professionally designed software with 30 years of development behind it, and the OpenGPL licence, then join me in protesting in blogs, forums and to the industry itself about the excellence of Ubuntu, and if you haven't tried, install it.


At very least remember it will be harder to install a new patch from Microsoft then a new operating system from Shuttleworth


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"Maybe... if you're using wine to play pirated games :) . As far as I know there are no virii for *n?x, if somebody knows one please share the info. On the MS Win side, how about Conficker ? 9 000 000 + infections and still counting... "


I think the point was that no one writes exploits to target 1% of the network when you can write expoints to target the other 99%.


I would love to hear someone explain the magic formula that makes Linux immune to exploits and scalability issues.


that`s because whenever a programm wants to make serious modifications to the system, you are prompted to enter you password, when you don`t enter it, the program just wont do what it was disgined for, f*cking up your pc in this case.


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I am not sure if you are serious with this:


' "The article you so nicely put a link to is >=90% lies and mis-information."

How about this one?... http://www.promotinglinux.com/truth/ '

But you do know it's satire right?


Just passing by, nothing more I have to add here.


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WoooooooooooooooW


that is what i expected to hear about ubuntu


UBUNTU Roooooooooooocks


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