Chrome For Linux Slowly Wriggles From Primordial Ooze

by Kristin Shoemaker - Nov. 12, 2008Comments (18)

If you're a Linux user waiting to try out the Chrome browser, CNet offers some bad news, tempered by a tiny ray of good news.

It seems the Google developed browser, released approximately two months ago, is showing the first signs of growing Linux legs, and is making its way towards the operating system. It takes time, a few dead ends, and maybe even requires losing a link or two before it really works -- Google suggests it might be quite some time.

Okay, fine, it's the cynic in me. Google not offering a version of Chrome for Linux right away (and more recently, overlooking the porting of Gmail voice and video chat to the platform) just isn't surprising -- and really, I almost can't get worked up about it.

Linux users waited a long time for Picasa for Linux, and it still doesn't run natively (it uses WINE). The Google Desktop application also took a long while before a Linux version was offered (and oddly, I discovered most of the similar desktop environment integrated tools worked as well, and were less intrusive when trying to get things done that really didn't require its services).

No doubt, it's understandable to feel a bit slighted (especially when Google feels like it ought to be one of the most forthcoming non-open source companies out there when it comes to actively supporting open source projects), but it isn't unprecedented. Do I want to see, and will I try out, the first native Linux Chrome release? Without question. But I have a perfectly serviceable browser in the meantime, and I'm finding it difficult to be overly anxious about the wait.



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I am waiting to see when the real Chrome appears in LINUX. It is sad that they have so much support for Open Source yet their applications goes on Windows first.


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I usually one who is all behind Google. But, this kind of development does make one wonder... Do they need more Linux developers??


...and using WINE for picasa is just sad. Come on google.... pick up the slack.


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Had Google cared about Web standards (which they don't, they even DO ACTIVEX!), there would be no issue. My guess is that the company got poisoned by former Microsoft employees and 'Windows heads'. That's what I'm told by people close to the company.


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Google puts out a decent amount of stuff into the Open Source world. Those tend to be mainly developer-focused tools. However, as a business, it doesn't seem like they care much about the Linux user, who probably constitutes a small sliver of their user base.


The dev folk probably encourage releasing code into OSS. The MBAs in product marketing probably still cling on to their Closed Source security blankets.


Get the program, bitches!


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It is a little bit annoying considering Google are prepared to take from the Free and Open world, boasting that they had 10,0000 Linux servers etc. Make extensive use of Java, jabber, use WebKit for their browser rendering.


When it comes to giving...


For such a "cool" and "rad" cash-rich company that is pretty insulting.


Not sure what their contribution to open International Standards is...apart from ODF which they clearly have an interest in beating MS over the head with.


Still, can't argue with their web offerings.


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yeah... im alittle bothered by google an their attitude... not that i care about chrome...... or that i use any of their services , save google desktop,. and even then i haven't reinstalled it with this last install of linux i did....


at the end of the day they are just another company looking to profit from FOSS and really don't care about the philosophy/ideals behind it.. it gets harder and harder to support these companies.. as it is...when i search i use scroogle... why.. because as they do not care about the ideals behind FOSS and our needs, i don't care about their business needs...


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It's perfectly fine to run applications through special WINE support. Picassa works well and they invested in WINE to get it going. I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing the same for Chrome.


A plugin for video chat on linux is a different story all together. The support needed for video chat isn't 100% on Linux itself. Pidgin has been working on it but the supporting libraries that come from other projects aren't yet ready. In this case it may not be possible to even do this feasibly for Google.


Give Google credit for what they have contributed. A few years of Summer of Code has promoted open source tremendously.


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I lost all my impression and enthusiasm towards Google's products when I came to know Chrome & Video chat doesn't work on my Linux box. You can't beat Firefox & Skype.


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Google is open source friendly (look at their MySQL patches, for example).

It's only that the Linux Desktop is a different ballgame. The Linux desktop is way too diverse and porting something like Google Chrome that was hacked up in a short time to Linux isn't going to be that quick.


Of course, Google Talk is a legitimate concern. It's an application that's based off of the open source XMPP and yet they haven't managed to bring out a Linux version - I think they're either not interested or are waiting for something like PulseAudio to stabilise, perhaps?


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We don't need no stinkin Chrome for Linux. We can build a better one ourselves. So quit whinin' about Google's commercial practices. Google is just Microsoft with a different name and color scheme. The FOSS community can stand on our own feet and produce better software than any of these dollar-hungry behemoths can.


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  • Paul Jacobson - Is Chrome another I... on Dec. 02, 2008

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  • now, there is no difference btw google and microsoft..

    cm..on google, do some thing in favour of Linux, so that windows user can learn the power of open source..

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    not that i kno ne thing but if google chrome is foss then it would seem to be fairly easy to reverse engineer it to work on ubuntu or something. can anyone fix my understanding? isn't chromium a foss project? it seems that if ppl were working on it we would have 'Roam 0.1' for ubuntu in no time. hey yes u guys can use the name and thanks for all the great software!


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    Part of the problem is the Laziness of some "windows heads" who only learn to program in C# and .Net. I'm sure part of the slow crawl is now that they got the browser functioning for 90% of the worlds computers, they now must reinvent all the code in Objective C to meet Mac standards. Once this task is achieved the Linux version shouldn't be too far behind. I think Google is taking a Sun Microsystems approach to business by making free tools that will lead to sales of their cloud-computing and enterprise services. The reason the browser is not out for Linux yet...is other than IBM and Google itself...most enterprise-level customer's have Windows computers they're not willing to part with let-alone upgrade. If Google can get the corporations dependent upon chrome based applications, presenting Linux as a price-saving solution will appeal to their pocketbooks when Microsoft tries to squeeze them again for Windows 7 upgrades.


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    I guess Google will make more money releasing Chrome on Windoze. And remember folks 'money makes the Google go round'.


    This answers the question, Smaller number of Linux users as compared to Widows users = Less revenue for Google


    So rightly or wrongly that's why they're in no hurry to finish Chrome for Linux.


    Chrome running via Wine is pants by the way...very laggy.


    Opera is decent.


    Firefox good too, but way slower than Chrome on Windows.


    JJ


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    I think it makes sense that they go for Windows users first.


    They want to see how the browser would appeal to the majority, and if it is a hit (maybe if it's so much of a hit that even Linux users would ask for it) then it would eventually come on different flavors for Linux, Windows, and Mac.


    I haven't much experience with programming but I think that it might be hard translating software from one platform to the next. You have to strive to retain as much original functionality as the original version and after that, you still have to test for bugs and fix all of them afterwards. A pain, really.


    I see it as Google testing the waters for a just a little bit.


    As for Picasa and Google Desktop, I think most Linux users can find more desirable alternatives for these... Maybe that Google simply thought it would not have a chance against F-spot or that Google Desktop just not that much of a functionality booster for most Linux users. I had Linux before and that's what I felt for their apps. I mean... why have Google Talk when there is always Skype for Linux (with a larger user base)?


    Chrome is perhaps the first Google product that is revolutionary enough to be wanted in the world of Linux. I highly enjoy browsing with it as it gives me a browsing experience that cannot be substituted by Safari, Konqueror, Opera, Camino, Firefox, or even Epiphany.


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    ok ok... first off chill and don't start throwing s**t at Google because of Chrome.


    1) Chrome is the official version of Chromium which is opensource, if you want a Linux version to come out faster go contribute, many new Linux users forget that -all- the users are supposed to contribute, at least with testing/bug reporting, if they can not code.


    2) Google has always supported opensource, yes they could do better, but hey, balance the good with the evil.


    3) Chrome is not new, it was started many years ago actually, and was never intended to be crossplatform but just for Windows therefore most of their code is OS specific, they have also bet to the wrong cow using gtk instead of Qt back in time when there was concerns about the licence of this one, they could have saved then a lot of time and recoding, now they have to code the whole thing for every OS! Bad decisions in the past have their consequence now. (I am not flamming gtk, if you code tks you know what I talk about).


    4) About Picasa and Google desktop, eww, we don't need them in Linux, have you heard about "locate" ? or beagle? and what about f spot or digikam? (why does gnome users always overlook and forget to account for software outside gnome desktop? that's not fair guys)


    5) About Skype, eww, first off it looks like Skype might crash soon, and secondly, Skype for Linux is terrible! their ALSA coding adds latency and use too much cpu, also, the video overall quality and it's compression are of much lower quality compared to the equivalent Windows version, also, they have not released updates to their software for almost two years! The worst part is their sound codding, the only part they coded right is the OSS part, but man that is cake. Also consider that it is not a good idea to rely completely on a single company, what if they stop support for Linux as a whole? they already do actually, kind of.


    5) They need to recode the video chat codec for Linux, they said that it require a rewrite but that the wait would be worth, ok I will wait a bit (no too much either!) and have a great quality port.


    6) As a side note, I want to remind to all those Ubuntu users asking for an Ubuntu version of their software... that you are using LINUX, ask for a LINUX version -instead of- an Ubuntu version! That is completely unpolite from you all guys! and sorry to mention that but I have seen way too many posts like that and I am offended by that attitude.


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