GNOME in Trouble Again (or Still)?
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GNOME in Trouble Again (or Still)?
by Susan Linton - Jul. 31, 2012Comments (8)
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We knew that a certain segment of the Linux population was still unhappy with GNOME, but I thought most of issues were behind us; that most have adapted or moved on. But apparently, a wave of articles today suggests otherwise. Of course, an insider's blog post set off this campfire.It seems a well-respected GNOME developer blogged recently that GNOME was "staring into the abyss." Benjamin Otte wrote that developers are leaving and the staff in general is understaffed. He state that GTK has only one person working on it and that the number of developers has declined sharply in the last few years. As if that wasn't bad enough Otte went on to say that "GNOME has no goals." He says he first noticed that in 2005! We all thought the new goal was to remake themselves for the smartphone market. Otte says that GNOME thinks of itself as a "'community that makes great software,' which is as nondescript as you can get for software development." Finally, Otte makes the point that GNOME is losing hearts and minds, and computer screens. He states as evidence that distros are dropping GNOME for more traditional and lighter options, supporters are scaling back, and most importantly, many popular GNOME applications have never made the transition to GNOME 3.These comments are an indictment of the GNOME project. In a previous post Otte said GUADAC was a "self-congratulating echo chamber." Users have complained for a long time that GNOME developers didn't listen to them and others have said that Red Hat plays too large a role in directing the project. Only time will tell if this little kerfuffle will lead to some positive change or blow over.
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by anonymouser on Jul. 31, 2012I came to Linux through Gnome.
And I hated it.
Luckily, I found out about choice and now use KDE, XCFE, E17.
Its not about being good or bad, there is no such thing in a desktop, only the user knows what he likes.
But I never liked Gnome (besides the look and feel that newbies always told me looked different) because I thought the 'we know better than you waht you like' atittude was grating. I like to configure things the way I like.
You can have your defaults but you have to allow me to do things my way.
This is not to pile because I believe that having choice of desktops is a great thing in Linux but it seems that Gnome hasnt had a direction in quite some time. It achieved what it wanted and seemed bereft of ideas.
Seeing the Microsoft paid for Gnome and Mono Love Festival just was the turd special on the sh^t sundae. But thats Gnome, they seem to be oblivious to everything around them...
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by Ken on Aug. 01, 2012Gnome has faced the same direction as ubuntu, when the community is looking on them all they see is there backs. Plain and simple. Why now should gnome be concerned? Who in there right mind will use gnome today only to keep adding on extensions after extension to get a usable desktop and more cumbersome one to use? Its a joke.
They cant use the excuse as you stated back in 2005 there direction for gnome was smart phones, they never excited then and they could not have known they would come to be! Today i own a smart phone and don't want my smartphone on my desktop. I would also not buy a smartphone with gnome or unity on it.
The single sided decisions they made effected allot of Linux users including myself, so much so that i moved to a slackware based distribution using xfce 4.8. They took from a Linux user without asking well then keep it i don't want it any longer.
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by an anonymous user on Aug. 01, 2012I thought Gnome 3 case was the same KDE 4 problem, that is, release an unpolished Desktop Manager before is mature but with time the rough edges will be polished. I was wrong because when time pass Gnome developers does not hear the user complaints and now they are speaking about Gnome 4 and Gnome OS.
Now I think Gnome will disappear (I hope GTK/GTK+ don't), but this is not a mayor problem because Linux is about choice and there are other very compelling Desktop Managers.
At this moment i will stick with KDE.
Pietro Pesci Feltri
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by an anonymous user on Aug. 01, 2012All I have to say is thank goodness for Linux Mint and MATE
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by an anonymous user on Aug. 02, 2012I started using Gnome because it was truly Open and a decent desk top at the time. A number of years ago that sentiment changed, when they started to dumb it down, presumably to try and bring over MS Windows users. I moved to KDE because it had the bells and whistles I need to be effective. I've looked back at Gnome and given it a try a few times over the years since then, but nothing has changed. I'm still very happy with KDE.
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by kapsarovb on Aug. 03, 2012I'm very happy with GNOME 3 and I'm using it full time from 2010. I don't understand what problems you have, but my GNOME 3 rocks!
And BTW, thank God that I don't see "start-alike" button anymore.
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by an anonymous user on Aug. 03, 2012I like the look and way Gnome 3 works. I was using it for around the first year. However, realising that any extensions likely break over time with subsequent releases, and the final grim dawning that the shell just isn't stable enough anymore have pushed me to use KDE on my desktops, and XFCE on my laptop.
Ah, sweet control over my interface, I remember you!
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by csantos on Aug. 15, 2012As kapsarovb, I myself use gnome 3 and approve most of its features and changes from gnome 2. I find it to be more elegant and found my productivity to be at least as high as it used to be in the previous version. As for the lack of customization in the general panel, I guess it is somewhat justifiable: by allowing the user to customize his wm too much, developers are taking a huge chance to let things break over a short amount of time. This is the reason my previous gnome desktop always looked terrible, with lots of broken/unorganized icons in the top bar (just to cite one of several things that made gnome 2 feel primeval compared to windows xp+ and other linux WMs).
Well, that's only my opinion anyways.
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